Sections 7 and 8 effectively give blanket immunity to US personnel for charges of war crimes, specifically w.r.t. the Geneva Conventions. Basically, it redefines the War Crimes Act to allow whatever the President says. (Sec. 8.a.3 of this bill)
Some good news: This isn't the first time our country has suspended the Constitution in some wholly unconstitutional manner; each time it was realized and reverted a few years later. I suspect that the same will happen here, after our current President -- may his name and his memory be erased -- is gone and the Congress cleaned up as well. It's very important to do that, soon, before (more) lasting damage is done: remember to vote in this coming election, no matter where you are, and if you can contribute to electoral races, do so. And next election. And the one after that.
(On the subject of lasting damage: No real developments in the Arar case since the Canadian government's report. Apparently they admit that they mistakenly tagged him as a terror suspect and gave this information to the US; the US promptly shipped him off to Syria to be tortured. The Canadian government apologized. But that doesn't answer the basic question of where the safety checks went that would keep a single mistaken identification from sending someone off to a torture chamber for a year -- isn't this precisely why we have a rule of law?)

September 29 2006, 19:06:22 UTC 9 years ago
It doesn't suspend any portion of the Constitution at all.
You cite the 14th amendment, but the application is incorrect. The Constitution applies to legal residents within the United States. The courts have extended those protections to illegal aliens within the United States as well as those individual in custody of US law enforcement officials. The Constitution in no way guaruntees the rights of foreigners on foreign soil, though a number of treaties signed by the US does.
The use of military commissions has existed since before World War 2. The language in this bill is consistent with the military tribunals and commissions that have existed within context of military law, completely in keeping with the letter of the Constitution.
Those individuals that are caught engaging in hostilities against the United States are criminals and are charged in the civil courts. Those aliens captured engaging in hostilities against the United States overseas are subject to military commissions.
So what's the problem?
September 29 2006, 19:10:46 UTC 9 years ago
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September 29 2006, 20:13:53 UTC 9 years ago
Terms are defined in section 948a:
948a.1: "The term 'alien' means an individual who is not a citizen of the United States."
948.a.3: "The term 'lawful enemy combatant' means an individual who is (a) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States; (b) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizeable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or (c) a member of a regular armed force who professes allgeiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States."
948.a.4: The term 'unlawful enemy combatant' means an individual engaged in hostilities against the United States who is not a lawful enemy combatant.
I read those sentences together as saying that the people subject to these commissions are all non-Citizens who either engage in hostilities or "hav[e] supported hostilities."
September 29 2006, 20:49:27 UTC 9 years ago
Which means that you're either actually pulling the trigger, or are a member of some countries organisation directly in support of those hostilities.
How many non-citizens, in the United States, are either pulling the trigger or are part of some foreign government effort supporting hostilities against the United States?
(the latter, by the way, is defined internationally as "spying" if conducted within the United States)
September 29 2006, 20:57:38 UTC 9 years ago
Compare, for example, to 18 U.S.C. 2339B, the 1996 anti-terror act, which prohibits provision of "material support or resources" to an organization designated as a foreign terrorist organization. The omission of a modifying adjective here will very certainly be taken seriously by the courts to have been intentional.
September 29 2006, 22:26:09 UTC 9 years ago
`Any alien unlawful enemy combatant engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States is subject to trial by military commission as set forth in this chapter.'
It is clear that it is specifically limited to individuals who have "supported hostilities" and are or have been an "enemy combatant".
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September 29 2006, 19:44:12 UTC 9 years ago
Then at that point we are so close to a police state that it is just too easy for somebody to just up and says, "Party's over, no more democracy. I run the shots here from now on."
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I don't know if it actually applies here, but many people feel it does.
September 29 2006, 20:18:03 UTC 9 years ago
This is the precise application of the law based on over a century of precedence. One can hardly argue the erosion or rights, particularly with regard to foreign unlawful enemy combatants captured on foreign soil.
Slippery slope arguments are rarely effective or accurate.
Most oft because they rarely have anything to do with reality.
September 29 2006, 20:23:10 UTC 9 years ago
September 29 2006, 20:31:57 UTC 9 years ago
That said, you presented a slippery slope argument in your first paragraph which, succinctly, amounted to this:
If we pass this bill, then we will end up with a police state.
Which is, as slippery slope arguments are, an oversimplification of the situation and often plays on the ignorance and fears of those that the argument is presented to.
September 29 2006, 19:48:54 UTC 9 years ago
However, just because you can do a thing does not mean you should do a thing. Evidence continues to mount that we are moving backwards in the war on terror. Iraq crumbles beyond our control, Afghanistan is starting to look like it may follow, and intelligence papers are emerging that report that our actions since 9/11 have only resulted in an increased number of terrorists and acts of terror.
I would argue that the blasé dismissal of the rights of those we capture as evidenced in this bill continues to push us in the wrong direction. What's the problem? That this is the sort of wrong-headedness that will simply continue to feed the sources of terrorism, not eliminate them.
September 29 2006, 20:26:09 UTC 9 years ago
I would argue that the bill does not represent the dismissal of rights as even the Geneva Convention outlines the methods and means for the detention and trial of captured legal combatants.
But in a global struggle that does not involve nation-states or clearly distinct, defined geo-political entities that can be held accountable by international institutions, the Geneva Convention falls well short of providing those sorts of mechanisms and require refinement.
Just because it is new and different does not make it bad.
September 29 2006, 20:30:40 UTC 9 years ago
September 29 2006, 20:45:17 UTC 9 years ago
The gap in the legal structure exists with regard to illegal combatants, because it was understood by nations throughout history that illegal combatants were not protected under the convention nor afforded any rights or protections under any legal structure. They were often regarded as spies by the mnations that captured them which meant that those prisoners were often immediately executed upon capture.
The quandry with US operations is that it is not desirable to execute prisoners as they are a valuable source of intelligence. However, no international or, even, domestic legal structures adequately addresses the issue of illegal combatants that are not immediately executed.
This law is merely an attempt to further refine the international laws through the precedents that have existed, by providing a legal framework that defines the treatment and rights, whatever they are, of illegal combatants.
September 29 2006, 20:55:22 UTC 9 years ago
(1) "Enemy combatants" is very loosely defined, since it suffices to simply "support" the enemy. Importantly, the word isn't given its usual qualifier "material," which means that the law specifically allows the use of this definition for much broader types of support than are traditionally considered. (Providing guns is material support; speaking in someone's favor is non-material support) This law seems to leave the decision on who is an enemy combatant in the hands of SECDEF, which is a damned scary (and unaccountable) place to leave it.
(2) There is no doubt that a procedure needs to exist for the handling of non-uniformed combatants. But this procedure explicitly restricts almost every procedural safeguard, not only of civil law, but of the UCMJ. (See particularly section 949a.2, and the fact that it's overridden by 949.a.b.1 whenever SECDEF so orders; and 948.b.c, which notes specific provisions of the UCMJ which are explicitly rejected by these commissions) Very concerningly, it permits indefinite detention of people without any trial or ability to challenge detention even in military court. (948.b.c.A)
This combination of factors seems like it disassembles the basic foundations of justice, or any semblance thereof. The first means that it's applicable not only to persons encountered on the battlefield, but to anybody whom the SECDEF (or his appointed agents) deems necessary; the second means that anyone so labeled has no effective defense or response. Neither of those are necessary for simply refining the existing procedures to deal with enemy agents captured on the battlefield.
September 29 2006, 21:33:39 UTC 9 years ago
And it is that clause which truly makes this bill authorize Star Chambers.
September 29 2006, 22:38:31 UTC 9 years ago
A combatant is exactly that. In international law a combatant is one who engages in direct hostilities (or is clearly identified as one - i.e. uniforms, markers, badges, etc). There can be no mistake by either the US civil or military judicial systems, nor by international courts.
2) By international law, non-uniformed combatants are illegal combatants. As they are not military combatants, the Uniformed Code of Military Justice does not apply to them. Even if one attempted to apply the UCMJ to the illegal combatants, it could not be done. It clearly lies outside the jurisdiction. The UCMJ, with International Law, protect civilians and legal combatants only.
I agree the gap exists. I agree that timely review by military commission or tribunal should be conducted upon challenge.
September 29 2006, 20:39:36 UTC 9 years ago
First of all, as per my other comment: this bill is not limited, as far as I can tell, to foreigners on foreign soil; it seems to apply to non-US-Citizens wherever they may be.
The Amar case seems to be an indication of why this is so deeply a problem. Amar was captured in transit through the US, thus as a foreign citizen on US soil; but rather than being sent through an ordinary legal procedure, wherein it would likely have been discovered that the Canadian intelligence was deeply flawed, he was rendered over to Syria for interrogation.
I realize that this is not the specific case covered by the law here, since he was rendered rather than tried by a tribunal; but it illustrates the key point that these terrorism charges are not being given the sort of scrutiny that an ordinary legal charge would receive, even one of much less severity, as well as the fact that foreign nationals on US soil are being considered aliens in practice.
It seems to me that this bill establishes a de facto martial law with respect to all non-citizens. Do you see something in its text, or in the established legal climate, that contradicts this?
September 29 2006, 21:14:08 UTC 9 years ago
1) Either you are a direct combatant
2) or a member of an official organisation of a foreign government supporting hostilities directly (e.g. intelligence, sabotage, etc)
How many non-citizens truly fall under either?
Laws are very specific. Like the so-called domestic wiretapping program, people tend to read more into them than they actually are and overreact as a result.
September 29 2006, 21:16:22 UTC 9 years ago
If the law were indeed limited to actual combatants or effective combatants such as spies, that would be one thing. (Although that would bring up the question of how one proves that people actually are effective combatants, and who judges) But this law doesn't seem to do that.
September 29 2006, 22:40:23 UTC 9 years ago
It's more accurate to say an enemy combatant that has supported hostilities.
But that individual still must be an illegal combatant, not merely support personnel.
And the bill states this adequately.
September 29 2006, 22:43:25 UTC 9 years ago
If there were such a restriction, I would be quite a bit less alarmed by the bill; it wouldn't be dismantling the Constitution in that case, at least. However, its total lack of safeguards would still be a pretty big issue: the Arar case only happened because there was no second set of eyes on the matter, and this law seems to formalize that lack of oversight pretty soundly.
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September 29 2006, 20:26:51 UTC 9 years ago
...for whatever good it's worth.